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		<title>By: seth</title>
		<link>http://www.contenthere.net/2010/02/why-cms-vendor-acquisitions-are-bad-for-customers.html/comment-page-1#comment-2527</link>
		<dc:creator>seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, Gunar.  My experience is that content migration tends to be more complicated in document management systems because DMSs do not always have a way to export metadata.  WCM migrations tend to be easier because the content is structured and the presentation tier can be used to produce XML representations of the content for import into another system.  

In the WCMS world, the big migration cost is in developing presentation templates.  Most WCMS have a built in presentation tier with its own tag library or syntax.  When migrating, developers need to re-build the presentation on the new platform from the ground up.  This, in itself is a lot of work.  Even worse is when the business takes the opportunity to lob in a bunch of &quot;while your in there&quot; template changes.  Before you know it, you have stumbled into an un-managed web redesign project that you didn&#039;t sign up for.  Without some serious product management discipline, things begin to unravel very quickly after that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Gunar.  My experience is that content migration tends to be more complicated in document management systems because DMSs do not always have a way to export metadata.  WCM migrations tend to be easier because the content is structured and the presentation tier can be used to produce XML representations of the content for import into another system.  </p>
<p>In the WCMS world, the big migration cost is in developing presentation templates.  Most WCMS have a built in presentation tier with its own tag library or syntax.  When migrating, developers need to re-build the presentation on the new platform from the ground up.  This, in itself is a lot of work.  Even worse is when the business takes the opportunity to lob in a bunch of &#8220;while your in there&#8221; template changes.  Before you know it, you have stumbled into an un-managed web redesign project that you didn&#8217;t sign up for.  Without some serious product management discipline, things begin to unravel very quickly after that.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Giesen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markus Giesen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, I saw the different stages for RedDot in so many places here. As well as Obtree and Gauss.
I have summarised the effects of the double buyout through the last 5 years of RedDot from a customer and partner point of view here: http://www.reddotcmsblog.com/why-the-acquisition-by-open-text-was-bad-for-reddot-cms
I would appreciate your thoughts on this article.
Regards,
Markus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, I saw the different stages for RedDot in so many places here. As well as Obtree and Gauss.<br />
I have summarised the effects of the double buyout through the last 5 years of RedDot from a customer and partner point of view here: <a href="http://www.reddotcmsblog.com/why-the-acquisition-by-open-text-was-bad-for-reddot-cms" rel="nofollow">http://www.reddotcmsblog.com/why-the-acquisition-by-open-text-was-bad-for-reddot-cms</a><br />
I would appreciate your thoughts on this article.<br />
Regards,<br />
Markus</p>
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		<title>By: Gunar Penikis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gunar Penikis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Customers should demand portability in a vendor&#039;s solution - how easy is it to export and import data?  Do the tools already exist within the product that make the data and metadata portable?

One aspect of this is ensuring that media that is exported can contain as much metadata the customer wants from the host system.  Either embedded in the native format, with XMP, or as an associate stream. At least this allows some of the context to carry with the media itself.  So that it can reestablish itself in a new home.

This metadata rich approach allows for the data to be point of integration and interoperability rather than the aging system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Customers should demand portability in a vendor&#8217;s solution &#8211; how easy is it to export and import data?  Do the tools already exist within the product that make the data and metadata portable?</p>
<p>One aspect of this is ensuring that media that is exported can contain as much metadata the customer wants from the host system.  Either embedded in the native format, with XMP, or as an associate stream. At least this allows some of the context to carry with the media itself.  So that it can reestablish itself in a new home.</p>
<p>This metadata rich approach allows for the data to be point of integration and interoperability rather than the aging system.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly McCabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimberly McCabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>recently @Christian_Burne tweeted that Open Text is where CMS go to die. I thought it was pretty funny. But it does raise some questions about what happens when CMS are acquired or when a company like Open Text has RedDot and acquires Vignette. Travis Cole had some interesting thoughts on an &lt;a href=&quot;http://oshyn.com/_blog/Web_Content_Management/post/OpenText_WCM_CMS_Acquisition_Roadmap/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an Open Text Acquisition Roadmap.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>recently @Christian_Burne tweeted that Open Text is where CMS go to die. I thought it was pretty funny. But it does raise some questions about what happens when CMS are acquired or when a company like Open Text has RedDot and acquires Vignette. Travis Cole had some interesting thoughts on an <a href="http://oshyn.com/_blog/Web_Content_Management/post/OpenText_WCM_CMS_Acquisition_Roadmap/" rel="nofollow">an Open Text Acquisition Roadmap.</a></p>
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		<title>By: seth</title>
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		<dc:creator>seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points Joe.  Mergers 5+ years ago seemed to be more about building complementary suites of products.  If this was the intention, it is now pretty clear that these deals were not put together by technical people who had any architectural vision.  I doubt that the decision makers understood the technology of the products that they were acquiring or had a realistic plan to integrate them.  Whether they earnestly tried or not, these companies were unsuccessful at assembling the solution that they claimed to be aiming at.  

I think the strategy of the day was probably about keeping up with a changing marketplace and acquiring product categories that seemed hot.  Vignette and Interwoven both felt that web publishing was running out of growth potential.  They wanted to get into enterprise content management because selling a 100,000 seats for an intranet is a more lucrative deal that selling 40 seats to an internet publishing group.  The customers paid the price because these acquisitions shifted these companies away from their core competency and the web publishing products stagnated.  This is why Vignette and Interwoven both entirely missed web 2.0 and felt like an anchor to their customers who were competing against agile start-ups with more nimble technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points Joe.  Mergers 5+ years ago seemed to be more about building complementary suites of products.  If this was the intention, it is now pretty clear that these deals were not put together by technical people who had any architectural vision.  I doubt that the decision makers understood the technology of the products that they were acquiring or had a realistic plan to integrate them.  Whether they earnestly tried or not, these companies were unsuccessful at assembling the solution that they claimed to be aiming at.  </p>
<p>I think the strategy of the day was probably about keeping up with a changing marketplace and acquiring product categories that seemed hot.  Vignette and Interwoven both felt that web publishing was running out of growth potential.  They wanted to get into enterprise content management because selling a 100,000 seats for an intranet is a more lucrative deal that selling 40 seats to an internet publishing group.  The customers paid the price because these acquisitions shifted these companies away from their core competency and the web publishing products stagnated.  This is why Vignette and Interwoven both entirely missed web 2.0 and felt like an anchor to their customers who were competing against agile start-ups with more nimble technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Bachana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Bachana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 23:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, Seth. While I think that software acquisitions in our space are less about technology today, it wasn&#039;t always so. Just a few short years ago, companies tried to round out their dossier of products. So for instance, Vignette had VCM yet acquired Epicentric for a portal play (became VAP). So too, Interwoven acquired MediaBin to round ou its DAM play. EMC/Documentum acquired a number of different technologies, including Bulldog, to also present at least a veneer of enterprise content management.

However, in varying degrees, most of these acquisitions failed and the original application had to be scrapped and rewritten (ex. Bulldog was totally scrapped and DCTM&#039;s DAM was rebuilt by the EMC staff up in Toronto). Worse still, a few companies kept the products and just built these elaborate integrations with the legacy products.

In some cases, the companies didn&#039;t even attempt to integrate the solutions. When OpenText acquired Artesia, for instance, they kept that group as a standalone unit - I don&#039;t know that there was ever any attempt to integrate that product into the larger OT stack. You can be sure that OT did push their premium products downstream to the Artesia group though.

I don&#039;t necessarily agree that a single vendor couldn&#039;t manage an enterprise content management solution. However, I wholeheartedly DO agree that trying to integrate completely different code bases and different company resources and cultures is a recipe for a disaster. I&#039;m not sure anyone has ever been successful doing it in our marketplace.

Good post. -JB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, Seth. While I think that software acquisitions in our space are less about technology today, it wasn&#8217;t always so. Just a few short years ago, companies tried to round out their dossier of products. So for instance, Vignette had VCM yet acquired Epicentric for a portal play (became VAP). So too, Interwoven acquired MediaBin to round ou its DAM play. EMC/Documentum acquired a number of different technologies, including Bulldog, to also present at least a veneer of enterprise content management.</p>
<p>However, in varying degrees, most of these acquisitions failed and the original application had to be scrapped and rewritten (ex. Bulldog was totally scrapped and DCTM&#8217;s DAM was rebuilt by the EMC staff up in Toronto). Worse still, a few companies kept the products and just built these elaborate integrations with the legacy products.</p>
<p>In some cases, the companies didn&#8217;t even attempt to integrate the solutions. When OpenText acquired Artesia, for instance, they kept that group as a standalone unit &#8211; I don&#8217;t know that there was ever any attempt to integrate that product into the larger OT stack. You can be sure that OT did push their premium products downstream to the Artesia group though.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t necessarily agree that a single vendor couldn&#8217;t manage an enterprise content management solution. However, I wholeheartedly DO agree that trying to integrate completely different code bases and different company resources and cultures is a recipe for a disaster. I&#8217;m not sure anyone has ever been successful doing it in our marketplace.</p>
<p>Good post. -JB</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Limi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Limi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, hear.

This is why you should never use a CMS solution that is maintained and developed by a single vendor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear.</p>
<p>This is why you should never use a CMS solution that is maintained and developed by a single vendor.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Aspeli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Aspeli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic article, Seth. Thank you for articulating this so clearly.

I&#039;m sure you&#039;d agree that there are other shades of grey: acquisitions where it&#039;s more about acquiring complementary technology with the (sometimes misplaced) promise of tighter integration, or because the product lines had some correlation in the first place. However, I think you&#039;re absolutely right that this is seldom the only or even main driver for acquisitions, which after all are usually about maximising shareholder value, not altruism towards the customers of either the acquirer or the acquisition.

Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic article, Seth. Thank you for articulating this so clearly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;d agree that there are other shades of grey: acquisitions where it&#8217;s more about acquiring complementary technology with the (sometimes misplaced) promise of tighter integration, or because the product lines had some correlation in the first place. However, I think you&#8217;re absolutely right that this is seldom the only or even main driver for acquisitions, which after all are usually about maximising shareholder value, not altruism towards the customers of either the acquirer or the acquisition.</p>
<p>Martin</p>
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