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		<title>By: seth</title>
		<link>http://www.contenthere.net/2009/04/finally-drupal-gets-deployment.html/comment-page-1#comment-1113</link>
		<dc:creator>seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately there is very little industry consensus on terminology.  Words like &quot;deploy&quot; and &quot;template&quot; have different meanings in different platform communities.  Bob Doyle, over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cmsreview.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CMS Review&lt;/a&gt;, has been trying to put together a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cmsreview.com/glossaryinitial.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;content management glossary&lt;/a&gt; but it never got off the ground.  I think that we need to accept that words mean different things in different technologies and begin cross-community conversations with some level-setting and terminology definition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately there is very little industry consensus on terminology.  Words like &#8220;deploy&#8221; and &#8220;template&#8221; have different meanings in different platform communities.  Bob Doyle, over at <a href="http://www.cmsreview.com" rel="nofollow">CMS Review</a>, has been trying to put together a <a href="http://www.cmsreview.com/glossaryinitial.html" rel="nofollow">content management glossary</a> but it never got off the ground.  I think that we need to accept that words mean different things in different technologies and begin cross-community conversations with some level-setting and terminology definition.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Adriaan Bloem

Hmm, while have come across the terms baking/frying I can still see others becoming confusing as the word &quot;publishing&quot; is often used within the CMS itself to reset a content-item&#039;s state e.g. from &#039;draft&#039; to &#039;published&#039; (eZPublish, Plone, perhaps others).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adriaan Bloem</p>
<p>Hmm, while have come across the terms baking/frying I can still see others becoming confusing as the word &#8220;publishing&#8221; is often used within the CMS itself to reset a content-item&#8217;s state e.g. from &#8216;draft&#8217; to &#8216;published&#8217; (eZPublish, Plone, perhaps others).</p>
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		<title>By: Adriaan Bloem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adriaan Bloem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 01:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Russ, it&#039;s customary to use &quot;publishing&quot; for that, not &quot;deploying&quot;. I.e., static or dynamic publishing (baking vs. frying).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Russ, it&#8217;s customary to use &#8220;publishing&#8221; for that, not &#8220;deploying&#8221;. I.e., static or dynamic publishing (baking vs. frying).</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this more &#039;porting&#039; than &#039;deployment&#039;? I have been working on a static &#039;deployment&#039; module for the ezpublish CMS. The name came from Plone who&#039;se ancient extension &#039;CMFDeployment&#039; did exactly that - cooked, then deployed, a dynamic (Python) CMS-based website to a bunch of static HTML files for offline viewing, high-burst traffic sites with no real need for user-dynamic interaction (our site at geonet.org.nz is an example)

This might be a bone of contention between different CMS installations (&#039;deployed&#039; or &#039;ported&#039;)

Just thought I might mention it :-)
Russ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this more &#8216;porting&#8217; than &#8216;deployment&#8217;? I have been working on a static &#8216;deployment&#8217; module for the ezpublish CMS. The name came from Plone who&#8217;se ancient extension &#8216;CMFDeployment&#8217; did exactly that &#8211; cooked, then deployed, a dynamic (Python) CMS-based website to a bunch of static HTML files for offline viewing, high-burst traffic sites with no real need for user-dynamic interaction (our site at geonet.org.nz is an example)</p>
<p>This might be a bone of contention between different CMS installations (&#8216;deployed&#8217; or &#8216;ported&#8217;)</p>
<p>Just thought I might mention it <img src='http://www.contenthere.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Russ</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>High time! Been looking for this kind of thing in Drupal for 3-4 years. Together with the arrival of widespread unit testing and abandonment of PHP 4, Drupal 7+ should be significantly less crazy-making to manage.

Ironically, I think I&#039;m finally enough fed up with the pains of coding custom behaviors in Drupal that I&#039;ll be using rails/django/whatever for any future work. (I&#039;ve said that more than a few Drupal projects ago, too...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>High time! Been looking for this kind of thing in Drupal for 3-4 years. Together with the arrival of widespread unit testing and abandonment of PHP 4, Drupal 7+ should be significantly less crazy-making to manage.</p>
<p>Ironically, I think I&#8217;m finally enough fed up with the pains of coding custom behaviors in Drupal that I&#8217;ll be using rails/django/whatever for any future work. (I&#8217;ve said that more than a few Drupal projects ago, too&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Dunlap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Dunlap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the writeup. Deploy is pretty much in its infancy now, I hope to continue growing it in the coming months. I do not right now have any plans to integrate with code deployment. I feel like the tools for managing that are pretty mature (talking mostly of svn and deployment scripts like Drush) and I&#039;m more focused on solving other problems right now. However I hope to have a patch done soon to manage file attachments. I also know there are a lot of improvements being done to Drupal&#039;s Version Control API module, so in the future linking the two together could be pretty easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the writeup. Deploy is pretty much in its infancy now, I hope to continue growing it in the coming months. I do not right now have any plans to integrate with code deployment. I feel like the tools for managing that are pretty mature (talking mostly of svn and deployment scripts like Drush) and I&#8217;m more focused on solving other problems right now. However I hope to have a patch done soon to manage file attachments. I also know there are a lot of improvements being done to Drupal&#8217;s Version Control API module, so in the future linking the two together could be pretty easy.</p>
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